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that Lott informed this examinant that he had been down to Spottswood, at a Paper-Mill, and had not applied for any paper, as there seemed little encouragement there, as he imagined there was no isinglass or suitable rags to be had there; that he (Lott) had promised Youngs to go to Pennsylvania, but waited for an answer or letter from Youngs; that he (the said Lott) did not make his business known to any person at the Paper-Mill at Spottswood, as he informed this examinant. This examinant being asked what reply Youngs made to him on his returning from Philadelphia, and informing him that he had not been able to procure him any paper, saith: That Youngs replied that he believed then he would not be able to go on, and Dawkins would lose his labour. This examinant further saith: That he frequently spoke to Youngs, and told him it would not do for him to make such money; that Youngs answered him he did not intend to pass it himself, but intimated that some one on the frontiers of Virginia or Susquehanna would take it of him, and give something in exchange for it. ISAAC KETCHAM. Taken this 14th of May, 1776, before me: ABRAHAM BRASHER, Alderman. Isaac Ketcham being further examined, saith: That Levi Lott gave him a sample of paper to take to Philadelphia to the Paper-Mill, which he said he had cut out of a sheet of Continental bills from between the bills; that he (the examinant) put it into his pocket-book, and there kept it till the guard came to his house, when he took it out of his pocket-book and threw it into the fire and burnt it. ISAAC KETCHAM. Taken this 14th of May, 1776, before me: ABRAHAM BRASHER, Alderman. City of NEW-YORK, ss: Isaac Ketcham, above-named, being, at his request, further examined, says: That though he at first intended to obtain paper at Philadelphia for the purpose of printing money, yet, on consideration, he thought it dangerous, and determined not to bring the paper, even if he could obtain it; that he considered if he got the paper it would not go into his saddle-bags, and that if he should carry it in a bag, it would be discovered, and therefore determined not to bring it, if it could be had. ISAAC KETCHAM. Taken this 15th day of May, 1776, before me: WILLIAM WADDELL, Alderman.
The following gentlemen met pursuant to their adjournment and agreement of this morning, viz: FOR NEW-YORK.Colonel Brasher, Colonel Stoutenburgh, Mr. Banclcer, Captain Denning. FOR ALBANY.Mr. Cuyler, Mr. Glenn. FOR DUTCHESS.Mr. Paul Schenck. FOR SUFFOLK.General Woodhull, Captain Wickham. FOR WESTCHESTER.Mr. Paulding. FOR ORANGE.Mr. Herring. FOR KINGS.Mr. Polhemus, Mr. Covenhoven. No other Members appearing, the gentlemen present could not proceed to business as a Congress. But Prisoners brought from Nassau-Island by Captain Wool, were separately brought in, and examined in the presence of Mr. Alderman Brasher, and the Examination of Thomas Henderson, Henry Dawkins, and Isaac Youngs, respectively, follow, viz: City of NEW-YORK, ss: Thomas Henderson, of Cold-Spring, in the Township of Huntington, in Suffolk County, Cooper, being duly sworn on the Holy Evangelists, deposeth and saith: That he knows Charles Friend, and has known him since some time last summer; that he knows a person who is commonly called and known by the name of Henry Dawkins; that said Dawkins has for several weeks past resided at the house of Israel Youngs, in Huntington; that Dawkins said yesterday, in the deponents presence, that he had been there upwards of eight weeks; that some weeks ago he saw the said Dawkins grinding some tools, which he then took to be Engravers tools; that soon after Dawkins came up to Cold-Spring, he told the deponent that he was an Engraver and a Silversmith; that there has been a suspicion in that neighbourhood that Dawkins and the Youngs were counterfeiting money; that he (the deponent) some time ago informed Charles Friend that Henry Dawkins, a countryman of his, was in the neighbourhood at Israel Youngs; that Friend asked what he was doing there; that he (the deponent) said he supposed living on his money, which the Provincial Congress paid him for cutting plates; that Friend said, then be was on some such business now, and that he would have it out of him; that he (the deponent) told Friend he had the same suspicion; that he further told Friend that no person was permitted to go into Dawkinss chamber, and that Israel Youngs himself split the wood for fire and carried it up himself; that Friend went to see Dawkins. City of NEW-YORK, ss: Henry Dawkins, late of the City of New-York, at present of Cold-Spring, in Huntington Township, Engraver, being examined, says: That he left New-York nine weeks ago this day; that Israel Youngs had frequently before that applied to him to undertake to cut plates to make such bills as those issued by the Provincial Congress; that he (this examinant) would not undertake to make him such, because he had been sworn not to cut any other such; that the said Israel Youngs frequently came to see the examinant in New-York Jail, and came to see him while he (the examinant) was cutting those very plates; that after he (the examinant) was out of Jail some weeks, Israel Youngs came to the examinant and lent him some money to pay his shop-rent, and took him (the examinant) up to the said Youngss house in Youngss sloop, together with his (the examinants) little son; that Israel Youngs had several times, both before and after he (the examinant) came out of Jail, applied to him to cut plates to print Provincial Bills of Credit; that after he (the examinant) had been a day or two at Cold-Spring, the said Israel Youngs showed him a large bundle of money, and took out of it a Connecticut bill of forty Shillings, and asked if he (the examinant) could imitate that for him, and requested him to do it immediately, and told the examinant that he (the said Israel) was about to pay a large sum of money and wanted it done immediately, that he might pay it away, as the examinant then understood; that said Israel Youngs told the examinant that he would reward him generously, and that he should never want; that the said Israel Youngs came to New-York for a press, but having got a bookbinders press, which would not suit the purpose, he (the examinant) directed him to Woolhaupter to make a proper press; that, in the mean time, the Said Israel Youngs was so impatient that, at his solicitation, he (the examinant) rubbed and made about a dozen of copies with a burnisher; that he believes the bills were signed by Israel Youngs; that he (the examinant) saw Israel Youngs sign three or four of those rubbed off with the burnisher; that the said Israel afterwards desired him (the examinant) to rub off some others in the same method; that he (the examinant) refused, as it injured the plate; that after the rolling-press was brought to Israel Youngss house and put up, he (the examinant) pressed off seven other bills in Israel Youngss presence, and showed him how to press the bills and make them; that any others that have been pressed and made were made by Israel Youngs, or some of the others concerned; that, by the handles of the press being very black, he judged at several different times that they had been at work; that it is about four weeks since the press was brought there; that Isaac Youngs and Townshend Hulet were concerned in this business; that Isaac Youngs frequently came and stayed with him hours at a time, and Townshend Hulet was frequently there and used to sleep in the room with him; that some time ago, (to wit: about a month ago, as he thinks,) Israel Youngs came to New-York, and when he returned home, brought with him a newspaper printed by Hugh Gaine, mentioning the difference between certain counterfeited Connecticut bills and the true bills, and got him (the examinant) to alter and amend the plate he had cut, to correct the differences or faults pointed out in that newspaper; that he (the examinant) did correct and amend the plate accordingly; that the counterfeit Connecticut bills described in that newspaper were those which had been struck off or printed on the said plate cut by him
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